Technical
Review Committee Meeting No. 2
January
21, 2004
MEETING MINUTES
DATE: January
27, 2004
DATE
OF MEETING: January 21, 2004
LOCATION
OF MEETING: Bow Municipal Building
10
Grandview Road, Bow, NH
ATTENDED
BY:
Name |
Affiliation
|
| Don
Lyford |
NHDOT |
| Ansel
Sanborn |
NHDOT |
| Bill
Hauser |
NHDOT |
| Mark
Hemmerlein |
NHDOT |
| Subramanian
Sharma |
NHDOT |
| John
Butler |
NHDOT |
| Stephen Henninger |
City of Concord |
| Bill
Klubben |
Town
of Bow Planning |
| Walter Norris |
Town of Pembroke Public Works Director |
| Kerrie
Diers |
CNHRPC |
| Nick
Alexander |
CNHRPC |
| Amy Sheridan |
Concord 2020 |
| Bill
O’Donnell |
FHWA |
| Dick
Lemieux |
FHWA |
| Rosemary Monahan |
EPA |
| Mark Kern |
EPA |
| Terry Robbins |
Federal Railroad Administration |
| Bill Neidermyer |
U.S. Fish and Wildlife |
| Gino
Infascelli |
NHDES |
| Carolyn Russell |
NHDES |
| Mickey
McIver |
Concord
Area Transit |
| George
Thayer |
Guilford
Rail |
| Ken Hunter |
Concord Trailways |
| Jed
Merrow |
McFarland-Johnson |
| Gene
McCarthy |
McFarland-Johnson |
| Chris
Bowler |
McFarland-Johnson |
MEETING
MINUTES:
The
Agenda for the meeting is attached and the meeting generally
followed the Agenda. These minutes are formatted
to follow the Agenda Items.
1.0
Introductions/Committee Overview
Don Lyford of the NHDOT brought the meeting
to order and asked that all present give their names and
the organizations/group for which they represent.
2.0
Project Overview/Status
Don stated that because there were many new
faces at the meeting, Gene McCarthy would give a brief
Overview/Status of the project. See TRC Meeting No. 1 Minutes
for a more detailed project Overview/Status discussion.
Rosemary Monahan asked if the transportation model included
a feedback loop for land use effects? Gene McCarthy stated
that the study team included an economics firm (Applied
Economic Research) who would conduct qualitative evaluations
of alternatives. Don Lyford asked if the Concord Master
Plan would be doing such an analysis. Steve Henninger responded
that the master plan would look at different land use scenarios
for build out, 2020 and 2030.
3.0
Approval of Meeting No. 1 Minutes
Gene McCarthy mentioned that he has received
some comments and asked if there were additional comments.
It was determined that the discussion concerning the number
of lanes to be studied on I-93 needs to be clarified. The
City of Concord's position is that they would like to limit
I-93 to 6 lanes. However, the study must evaluate the actual
needs for I-93 for any particular alternative. If widening
beyond 6 lanes is not acceptable, that must be a result
of the study and not an assumption.
The level of study for the Route 106 Connector was questioned.
It was clarified that the study will evaluate the connector
for traffic and potential impacts. It was also confirmed
that the study is committed to evaluating the effect other
projects would have on I-93.
4.0
Land Use Sub-Committee
Gene McCarthy stated that Mike Tardiff of
the RPC has suggested that a TRC Sub-Committee be formed
to focus on land use issues. Mike was not able to attend
the meeting so Kerrie Diers of the RPC described the sub-committee.
The sub-committee would include members from RPC (Mike
Tardiff, Kerrie Diers, and Nick Alexander), M-J (Chris
Bowler), Bow (Bill Klubben), Concord (Steve Henninger),
Pembroke, NHDOT (S. Sharma), RSG (Steve Lawe), Planning
Decisions (Mark Eyerman) and AER (Russ Thibeault). One
of the objectives of the committee will be to transfer
data from the various master plans to the design year model
for this project. The committee will also discuss the economic
and land use impacts that Russ and Mark will need to evaluate
as part of their work.
Rosemary Monahan expressed interest in joining the sub-committee.
5.0
Purpose and Need Discussion
Gene McCarthy began by stating the intent of the discussion
is to brainstorm the problems and goals of the project.
He mentioned the goals from Concord 20/20 and asked whether
these should be part of a purpose and need statement.
Examples of the goals are improving access to the Merrimack
River, rail preservation, or improved aesthetics. Gene
also distributed an FHWA technical advisory that provides
guidance in the preparation of purpose and need statements.
There was a great deal of discussion on what a purpose
and need is and how it should be developed. Below are some
of the highlights of the discussion.
Rosemary
Monahan stated that the Purpose and Need (P&N)
should look at a range of transportation alternatives (including
rail) that also meet local goals. She later suggested language
like "to support sound development" or "smart
development" instead of economic development. Gene
stated that the guidelines do mention economic development.
Bill
O'Donnell stated that the P&N should be general
and make statements like "improving capacity" and
not mention levels of service. He also stated that the
goals from Concord 20/20 could be components of a P&N
but the focus of the statement should be the improvements
to the transportation facility.
A question was asked about whether the alternatives have
to be within the I-93 corridor. Don Lyford stated that
the solution could include other corridors. There is no
need to limit the project at this point.
Bill Klubben stated that the project should develop solutions
to the problems with the transportation system that are
a result of expected growth. We should start with the problem
because that is how the master plans are developed.
The
design peak hour chosen for the project was then discussed.
The 30th highest hour has been chosen and the question
raised is whether that hour represents an unusually high
volume due to tourist traffic during the summer. A suggestion
was made to evaluate a more typical peak for the corridor
as well. Gene stated that the study team would like to
prepare a graph that plots the highest 100 days of the
year to determine the trend on the corridor. S. Sharma
stated that the NHDOT may already have this data available.
Amy Sheridan suggested that because I-93 has two main functions
- tourist/commuter traffic and local traffic - that maybe
the P&N could address the two needs and have different
goals for each. An acceptable level of service for tourist
traffic could be lower than for a typical commuter. The
question was raised as to who or what organization determines
the design hour for the study. Bill O'Donnell stated that
FHWA and the NHDOT make the decision.
Mark
Kern stated that the Army Corp. with EPA and USFWS prepare
a simple P&N for their purposes. It uses language
like "safely and efficiently moving goods and services".
He also stated that the LOS should not be a concern in
the statement.
Bill
Hauser stated that he believes the P&N needs
to be determined so that the study has consensus before
it moves forward. He feels that this committee should actively
participate in developing the P&N and we should take
advantage of opportunities like this meeting where so many
agencies are represented.
Steve Henninger made the point that 2/3 of the people
who work in Concord live elsewhere. The City therefore
recognizes the dual roles I-93 serves. It needs to carry
the through traffic as well as the local traffic.
Ansel
Sanborn stated that striking a balance between access
and mobility is the challenge. He added that the P&N
needs to address people and not vehicles. The model has
been structured to project people trips not vehicle trips.
Also, the solutions will not necessarily be on I-93.
Steve
Henninger asked whether an intermodal connection will
be evaluated. This could be part of an alternative
but not necessarily part of the P&N. The location of
a rail/intermodal station was discussed and this could
be part of an alternative.
S. Sharma asked how the cost of owning/operating a vehicle
in the future could be evaluated. Gene stated that he would
ask RSG if this is possible.
The
intent is to have a draft of the P&N developed
before alternatives are developed. It is understood that
the P&N will be a work in progress until the completion
of Phase 1. However, at the end of Phase 1 the P&N
should be finalized and become the basis for the environmental
document to be prepared in Phase 2.
Bill
O'Donnell stated that the study limits are typically
determined at the same time the P&N is drafted. Gene
stated that the final study limits may not be known until
the end of Phase 1. Bill answered a question about the
limits by saying it needs to be large enough to encompass
important resources and affected transportation facilities.
It was determined that a draft study limits should be brought
to the group for comment.
6.0
Discussion
A question was posed concerning the Route
106 Connector and the property at Garvins Falls owned by
PSNH. Bill Neidermyer explained that the U.S. Fish and
Wildlife Service (USFWS) is seeking to preserve this land.
During the re-licensing process for dams along rivers the
USFWS is asking for land owned by the power companies along
rivers to be deeded over to the USFWS or placed in a conservation
easement. Bill stated that this has been the intent for
some time and he expects the process to take another 2
to 3 years. The USFWS has been successful doing this in
other areas. The question of balancing the community needs
for the land and environmental needs was raised. Bill stated
that the land is an extremely valuable resource and they
would not support a highway through it. It is a large tract
of land surrounded on three sides by the Merrimack River.
The
desire to lower I-93 in downtown Concord was discussed.
Steve Henninger
mentioned that the highway is already below
the 100-year flood plain. It would be difficult to lower
I-93 and provide drainage. It was also mentioned that a
Concord 20/20 goal was to provide river access. This would
require shifting the alignment to the west. The study team
will be looking for assistance from the TRC in determining
the setback required. This is especially important in the "Pinch
Point" south of Exit 14 where the space between the
river and downtown is its narrowest.
Steve Henninger responded to a question about the South
End Marsh by pointing it out on the map and stating that
it is mostly owned by the city.
The Heritage Trail was discussed. Amy Sheridan pointed
out its current extents and Jed Merrow discussed how this
project could fill in some of the gaps.
Jed also mentioned that the Turkey River is a valuable
resource that currently is impacted by the I-93/I-89 Interchange.
It would be desirable to enhance connection between Turkey
River/Turkey Pond and the Merrimack River through this
area.
7.0
Next TRC Meeting
The next meeting was scheduled for March
17 at 1:00 p.m. at the NHDOT offices in Concord.
Submitted
by,
Gene McCarthy, P.E.
McFarland-Johnson, Inc.